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  Amazing Kingdom Hall transformation

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, on tues august 2/16 i happen to be driving down westminster highway in richmond, b.c.

  [a suburb of vancouver] and notice activity at the kingdom hall at shell ave. hmm, i say to myself, they must be having a 'work bee' or some such thing.

  i continue on to work.

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  Nathan Natas

  So, was it a Boiling Pot Chinese Restaurant when you drove home?
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  Catholic women diacons...

  by mikeflood in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  pope francis sets study commission for women diacons.....could the watchtower follow sometime in the future?.

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  Nathan Natas

  Did you mean "deacons"?

  In the WTB&TS Hierarchy, the position is called a "Ministerial Servant."

  Ain't no way in hell the Watchtower will ever have Ministerial Servants who can't pass the testicle test.
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  Gov body

  by dogisgod in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i had a couple of young brothers at my door and one used the word "channel" in referring to how the gb gets inspired.

  i was pretty surprised at that.

  i've been "out" for a long time and i'm very out of the loop..

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  The WTB&TS has described themselves as "Jehovah's channel of communication" ever since Soupy Sales went off the air.

  Long time. Long long time.

  Before you was "in" and continuing after you was "out."
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  How would the world be different if there were no JWs?

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i think this would be a great question to ask active jws.

  they love to say how the world would be so different if everyone was a jw.

  however, what if we flip the question and ask, would the world really be much different if the jw faith never came into existence?

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  Nathan Natas

  Q.: How would the world be different if there were no JWs?

  A.: Kingdom Halls would be empty.
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  When did the governing body go from 12 to 7 members?

  by Tameria2001 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been out and away from that cult since 2001. back then there were 12 members of the governing body, and now i'm learning that number has come down to 7. when did this change take place, and what was their reason for dropping the number?.

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  Nathan Natas

  Q.: When did the governing body go from 12 to 7 members?

  A.: When five of 'em died.
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  Passing ships in the night and the disobedient compassionate brother #2

  by The Marvster in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi all, i've been away from the forum for many months, perhaps 9mths?

  well if you were around back then you might remember the title of this post in reference to happening upon two brothers on separate occasions and their reactions to me being 'not what i expected of jw's.

  something unexpected happened a few days ago.

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  Nathan Natas

  I had been wondering about that.

  Fascinating story!

  Glad it worked out well.

  Keep us informed, please.
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  Old People Ask..."I'm 88, and my girlfriend is 83, why do we need a chaperone?"

  by TimeBandit in

  1. social
  2. humour

  here's the latest episode of old people ask.

  this episode focuses on chaperones.

  why oh why do old people need them?

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  Nathan Natas

  But what if you were to bump uglies like Horndog Abraham and Flapper-Girl Sarah and you got yourselves preggo? Don't expect the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses to raise yer little luv-basterd for ya.
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  How the Bethel family responded to the bethel layoffs (profanity warning ***)

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i think we can say many of those laid off no longer trust the governing body because of being lied to repeatedly over so many things.

  things are getting very explosive at the governing body's home location kind of ties right in with being moved to a seriously pcp contamined chemical dump site, in fact bad karma has come to rest where ever these stupid lying clowns go.

  these gbs are a bunch of real ass holes and they treat the faithful shit and expect them to just take it like a bunch of dummy drones.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8kuldpksze.

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  Nathan Natas

  Thanks very much for sharing your experience with us. It is tragic that you and so many others were treated so badly by an organization you served with a willing heart.

  I was a pioneer and an MS when I was much younger. Although I lived in NYC, the idea of going to Bethel NEVER appealed to me, maybe because I knew too many Bethelites of various ages and just knew intuitively I would not fit in or enjoy the regimented lifestyle.

  I have had a couple of experiences during my employment history of needing to find a new job because of cutbacks.

  The first time it happened to me I was in my teens, working for a Brother who I still feel was like an Uncle to me. He sold his business and the property it was in when he came down with "1975 Fever" and decided he was going to pioneer his way thru Armageddon. Anyway, he told me my job with him was ending, but he used his family connections to make sure I had another job to go to. He was, as I suggested, a good guy. His pioneering career lasted until he ran out of money, and he was forced by circumstances (he had a large family to support) to take a job at a large commercial company where he was just another employee. I don't think he loved that job, but he loved his family and did what he had to do to support them.

  Years later I was working for a company that got into financial trouble and was sold to a new owner. The employees were treated like they were furniture - it was "assumed" that they would transition right across and work for the new guy like nothing happened. Problem was, I didn't like the new guy, and the Friday before I was supposed to start working with him I acted like, "gee... you never told me I had a job here (he hadn't), so I assumed you didn't need me. I got a new job." He was speechless, the chimp.

  At another company they made a MAJOR change in our employee medical insurance program and because they thought we were stupid, they called the new plan the ADVANTAGE program. ALL of the employees made a mockery of that, just so management would understand what they thought, but there are times you just have to roll with the punches life throws at you, so in that case we did. We couldn't change the program.

  Years later I worked for a company that decided that the entire company division I worked for had to be eliminated so the Board of Directors could continue to give our chowderhead CEO his annual performance bonus. Three thousand guys and gals lost their jobs, but those who took advantage of the company's "savings/investment plan" got their savings and about a $50k severance pkg. Did Bethel ever offer anyone a "savings/investment plan"? Of course not. Do they offer a severance pkg? Don't be silly.

  A person working in the real world has an opportunity to seek the wisdom of financial planning experts rather than the whiz-dumb of "Jehovah's Brightly Shining Ones" who can't even do arithmetic. Assuming one has some skills and applies themselves to advancing their career, over a working career it is possible to save $2 million or more for a retirement nest egg. Look at how nicely Bill Clinton has done!

  Just DON'T listen to Jehovah or his self-appointed organization.
  
  
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  After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).

  by quincemyles in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.

  the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.

  jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.

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  Nathan Natas

  This has been like watching a scorpion battle a tarantula, fascinating in an almost-morbid way, and irrelevant.

  Simon, I will be showing up at your house tomorrow morning with myATV and will leave donuts ALL OVER your lawn. You're welcome. Please leave the entire US under the old oak tree; you know the one.
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  Listen to Terri O'Sullivan XJW on Croydon Radio !

  by Phizzy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  terri o'sullivan was interviewed by croydon radio for a programme called "leap of faith", it was broadcast on sunday.. she does a great job of showing how wacky and weird the jw beliefs and practices are, the interviewer asks perceptive questions, either he was well briefed by terri or he is an ex jw !.

  she also gives info.

  on her meetup group for xjw's, great fun !.

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  Nathan Natas

  Good show! Terri "represented" well; articulate and informed. Good job, Terri!